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There are currently 189 administrators on Commons.

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Technical

Administrators are users with the technical ability on Wikimedia Commons to:

• delete and undelete images and other uploaded files, and to view and restore deleted versions
• delete and undelete pages, and to view and restore deleted revisions
• protect and unprotect pages, and to edit admin-protected pages
• block and unblock users, individual IP addresses and IP address ranges
• edit less-restricted interface messages (see also Commons:Interface administrators)
• rename files
• add and remove user groups
• configure Upload Wizard campaigns
• delete and undelete specific log entries and revisions of pages
• import pages from other wikis
• merge the history of pages
• modify abuse filters
• not create redirects from source pages when moving pages
• override the spoofing checks and title or username blacklist
• send a message to multiple users at once (massmessage)
• use higher limits in API queries

These are collectively known as the admin tools.

Community role

Administrators are experienced and trusted members of the Commons community who have taken on additional maintenance work and have been entrusted with the admin tools by public consensus/vote. Different admins have different areas of interest and expertise, but typical admin tasks include determining and closing deletion requests, deleting copyright violations, undeleting files where necessary, protecting Commons against vandalism, and working on templates and other protected pages. Of course, some of these tasks can be done by non-admins as well.

Administrators are expected to understand the goals of this project, and be prepared to work constructively with others towards those ends. Administrators should also understand and follow Commons' policies, and where appropriate, respect community consensus.

Apart from roles which require use of the admin tools, administrators have no special editorial authority by virtue of their position, and in discussions and public votes their contributions are treated in the same way as any ordinary editor. Some admins may become more influential, not due to their position as such, but from the personal trust they may have gained from the community.

Suggestions for administrators

Please read Commons:Guide to adminship.

Removal of administrator rights

Under the de-admin policy, administrator rights may be revoked due to inactivity or misuse of sysop tools. In an de-admin request, normal standards for determining consensus in an RfA do not apply. Instead, "majority consensus" should be used, whereby any consensus to demote of higher than 50% is sufficient to remove the admin.

Apply to become an administrator

All intending administrators must go through this process and submit themselves to RFA, including all ex-administrators who are seeking to return to their previous role.

First, go to Commons:Administrators/Howto and read the information there. Then come back here and make your request in the section below.

• After clicking the appropriate button and creating the subpage, copy the link to the subpage, e.g. "Commons:Administrators/Requests/Username", edit Commons:Administrators/Requests and paste it in at the top of the section, then put it in double curly brackets (e.g. {{Commons:Administrators/Requests/Username}}) to transclude it. Request a watchlist notice at MediaWiki talk:WatchlistNotice, or edit MediaWiki:WatchlistNotice to put up one if you are an administrator.

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Kritzolina

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Kritzolina (talk · contributions · deleted user contributions · recent activity · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth)

Scheduled to end: 17:36, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi all you wonderful people, I have been pondering this step for a while and I am still not completely sure if it is the right thing to do - but today I feel like being bold and offering some of my time and my experience in the Wikiverse as admin on Commons.

I started my Wikilife in early 2014 on the German language Wikipedia and soon after started also uploading pictures here. I learned A LOT since those early days, even though I am no longer at an age where you usually learn quickly (yes, you can find my year of birth on my userpage). Still ... as a volunteer I improved my skills in photography, I learned how to use templates, found out about all the stupid and creative ways wikis can be vandalised and about the difficulties of conflict solving onwiki and for a while I became an administrator on the German language Wikipedia.

I did take on a different hat within the movement and started as a Trust and Safety Specialist in 2017. As a result the German language community asked me to stand up for re-election for adminship in 2018. I decided not to do so, because I started to feel conflicts of interest in certain cases. But I kept learning things in this other role, which might be relevant also as an admin on Commons - I learned a lot about policies for online communities, especially behaviour related policies onwiki. And even more about the needs and also the amazing resources of wiki communities around the globe. I also learned quite a bit about different laws that might be relevant here on Commons and how they are applied and weighed against each other - even though I have to admit that copyright is not my strongest point.

I still wear the hat of Wikimedia staff member, but as I switched from the Trust and Safety Team to the Community Development Team, I don't feel that there is a real conflict of interests anymore. But this is one of the reasons I am unsure, if this request for adminship is the right thing - feel free to let me know if you think otherwise!

Even if I did not participate a lot in the meta spaces here on Commons, except around the monthly photo challenges and the QI and FI process, I have had an eye on the various administrators noticeboards and on the deletion requests and I couldn't help but notice that there is always a considerable backlog. This brings us back to why I am writing these lines today.

I can offer a few minutes on most days, sometimes a lot more. I will use that time to look at those noticeboards and deletion requests. There are a lot of requests or cases I don't feel competent to immediately take action. There are a few where as an admin I would like to weigh in on a decision we hopefully can take together. And there will be some requests I will feel competent to just decide on my own. Hopefully I will continue learning.

If you give me your vote, know this: As every human being, I will make mistakes, even where I feel competent. I will be happy to admit those mistakes and help undo any damage done, if possible and of course provided I also see my actions as mistakes. Sometimes we might have a discussion, if something was truly a mistake, or if we just have different opinions on what is "the right decision". And rarely, like we all, I will have a hard time to understand how something that seems so normal and logical to me can be a mistake. And I will cling to a mistake. I hope you will be patient with me in those rare cases. Kritzolina (talk) 17:36, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Votes

•  Support I see plenty of good things and I like the openness of the statement. Thanks for helping out Herby ^{talk thyme} 08:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Kritzolina has the temperament and experience required to be a good administrator. Thanks for volunteering. T Cells^Talk 09:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Kritzolina seems to have the character needed to be an admin, based on the answers below. Yann (talk) 11:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Thank you for volunteering. - FitIndia ^{Talk ✉} 11:50, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Weak oppose I like their photography work. I like their attitude here and elsewhere. I like their use of paragraphs above (but not below, for some reason).

But I would like to see them demonstrate their understanding in admin-related areas. Comments like those at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Adolescente recibe nalgadas.png and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Breno Saar dos Santos.jpg, without a strong record elsewhere to balance them, make me inclined to oppose. Brianjd (talk) 13:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

To be clear, you're saying that suggesting we delete an extremely low quality snapshot of a child being spanked, uploaded by someone with no other edits anywhere, is evidence of bad judgment? — Rhododendrites ^talk |  17:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I didn’t look at the other issues. I only looked at the reasons presented at the deletion request page: low quality and out of scope. And I thought that deleting the file using those reasons alone would be bad judgement. I did change my vote to delete based on later comments. Brianjd (talk) 13:11, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Support Even although the response to AFBorchert's is disappointing, I think, now she knows the issue, and if she wants to help out it's fine with me. --A.Savin 15:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Good answers, good temperament. Good candidate to be admin. Abzeronow (talk) 15:40, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Jianhui67 ^T★C 16:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Strong support In terms of on-wiki activities, Kritzolina has a clue, as they say, with experience as an admin from dewp and the right attitude for an admin. You don't see WMF staff put themselves forward for adminship very often. I can't blame them given sometimes tense relationships between WMF staff and various wiki communities. In this case, the sort of things that makes her well qualified for her job there would also be an asset as an admin. The nitty-gritty details of country-specific copyright laws can be learned; the ability to navigate complex personalities and disputes are harder to learn. — Rhododendrites ^talk |  17:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support overall, a good and competent candidate. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 17:11, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I know her since year, also in real life. She is self reflected and things about her actions. Give her a try, we have nothing to lose her, only to win. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 17:26, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --P170 (talk) 20:02, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Hast du 'n dickes Fell? Braucht man hier... Achim55 (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --Ameisenigel (talk) 22:28, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support "Hi all you wonderful people" sounded a bit like "my friend" and 99% when someone unknown says "my friend" something not quite right is likely to follow. Perhaps a little concerned about lack of experience in some areas but answering questions demoing following through of policies and perhaps previous experience and a feeling candidate can be trusted and backlog considerations just about swings me into support. In all events thankyou for candidate for volunteering. -- DeirgeDel ^t_a^c 01:32, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I'm worried that although Commons is understaffed, this year we have 5 failed RfA-s (and the 6th will fail as well), but only 1 successful. Taivo (talk) 07:57, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Tulsi 24x7 08:28, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --MZaplotnik^(talk) 08:37, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --JPF (talk) 12:37, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support -- IamMM (talk) 12:50, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 13:00, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Weak support Not so active in fields where admin tools were needed in the past, but if there is a will to start helping there this should be fine. --GPSLeo (talk) 13:49, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support--Ymblanter (talk) 16:49, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Yahya (talk) 22:05, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Let's try it. --Rosenzweig τ 08:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Trusted and experienced User. --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०^{†ลℓк †๏ мэ} 16:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Know her personally as we are hailing from the same city. Very good choice, good character and decent. Being a psychologist, she is badly needed here^^... --Mateus2019 (talk) 16:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support--TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 16:28, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Very friendly, trustworthy and helpful, always constructive and encouraging. --Aristeas (talk) 19:07, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Strong support Based on her extensive experience as a Commons editor, her passion to support Commons project over the last years make her a strong candidate for adminship here. With her cool temperament, her experience and in-depth understanding of Wikimedia Commons, as denoted by the q&a below, makes her an ideal person for this role. Wikilover90 (talk) 21:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support - I see no red flags here, easy support. –Davey2010^Talk 23:35, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Weak support Answer to AFBorchert was unsatisfactory, but generally speaking the candidate is good. Perhaps avoid involving in criteria that she is unfamiliar. --A1Cafel (talk) 07:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• Your statement stresses self-doubt regarding copyright and reflection following errors, which I find unusual (not bad!), but I ask for insight in your thinking: how would you go about determining whether File:Arjuna meets Krishna at Prabhasakshetra.jpg can be accepted as free content on this project? Hekerui (talk) 22:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you for this question, I like the image it pointed me to! Well, at first glance I see that the image is widely used, so it is in scope and it shows a PD-license, which of course, if it is correct, is a good thing. Now the important thing is to determine, if that license indeed is correct and also to figure out what is the problem with the missing parameter in the license tag. Those two are connected as we have an unknown author and no birth date is given. The only date we have on the file page is the date of acquisition, which is 1965 - if the painting was created at that time and the artist was young then, they could still be alive. Which of course would make the image definitely NOT in PD. But this looks more like a historical painting and we do have a source-link that looks interesting enough to follow. While we do get a name of an author (of the book or the image is not immediately clear to me, but probably of the book itself), we still have no dates. Now I start looking for who is the uploader, because they perhaps could give the missing information - and discover that this image was uploaded by a sock of a globally locked user, which of course looks suspicious. Again, from a quick glance it does not look like they were locked for copyright violations, "vandalism" and "crosswiki abuse" as rationale for locking seem unrelated to the problem at hand. But after these steps I am at a point, where I would probably look for an admin (or an experienced user) who knows more than I do about Indian culture and languages and who could help me determine, if this is indeed a historic image that can be freely used under the PD license, or if this is more likely a modern painting where we have to then seriously doubt the PD. Another route to go down would be to research more at the Robarts library at the University of Toronto, as they digitized the image or write to them and ask them for information on licensing - but I doubt I would realistically do this. So asking around is the most likely route I would take after those first steps. Kritzolina (talk) 07:52, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  Not bad at all. I had hoped for something more structured, as in explaining how you would apply COM:PD systematically, but the steps are there. Verisimilitude is good. Also, have you familiarized yourself with COM:URAA? It's a topic with results that baffle sometimes. Just making sure you are aware. Hekerui (talk) 22:24, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Question Could you please explain whether you see any problems for File:Stained glass windows in Propsteikirche Dortmund 01.jpg in regard to COM:DW? Thanks, AFBorchert (talk) 22:15, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  Hi @AFBorchert, you caught me here - this picture probably should be deleted as the FoP rules in Germany do not allow derivative works, while commons licenses allow this. Would you be so kind as to delete both images I took of windows in this church, while I look for more simlar images I took, or should I place an official request for deletion? Kritzolina (talk) 08:00, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  (Edit conflict) Thanks for the response. I am wondering, however, why you are pointing to the section about the “Prohibition of alteration”. COM:DW is primarily not about alteration but about photographing a copyrighted work which makes the photo a derived work. What do you think is exactly the problem of this photo in the context of COM:FOP Germany? --AFBorchert (talk) 08:16, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  Yes, of course COM:DW is talking mostly about us as photographers, but the undelying concept, which is explained in the first paragraphs also applies to all the different ways this photo could be reused (and altered) by Commons users. Someone could take this picture and print it on a T-Shirt for example - and do alterations. I assumed that taking the image was fine, as I was on publicly accessible grounds, when I took them - but reading up in more detail now, I see that churches are specifically mentioned as not being public spaces. So I am learning, thank you for that chance! Kritzolina (talk) 08:27, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  Indeed, interiors are not public spaces in regard to freedom of panorama in Germany. This is not restricted to churches but in regard to all interiors. At Commons, we have per-year undeletion categories below Category:Undeletion requests which allows us to restore such cases when the original artwork enters the public domain. When do you think this will be the case for the artwork depicted in this photograph? --AFBorchert (talk) 08:54, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  I will have to research and get back to you later, thanks for making me aware of this (now that I see it really stupid) mistake! Kritzolina (talk) 09:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  Well, I will help you here a little bit: This stained glass window is a work by Joachim Klos (see here). --AFBorchert (talk) 09:19, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks, I had just figured this out as well - so we have the 70 years after 2007 and could undelete the pictures could be undeleted on January 1, 2078. Can I ask you to please do the deletion(s) accordingly? Kritzolina (talk) 09:28, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  This is not a case of speedy deletion. I have opened a regular deletion request which also includes other photos of the stained glass window in this church. --AFBorchert (talk) 15:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Kritzolina, what are your observations with regards to de minimis in this case? ─ The Aafī (^talk) 08:11, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  I don't really understand why you bring this up - the window clearly is the main subject of the photo. Can you clarify? Kritzolina (talk) 08:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  I'm sorry if this sounds an unrealistic question but I felt to know more why you won't apply de minimis in such cases (because the other work forms probably a lesser part of this whole image. (I might differ in assessment) ─ The Aafī (^talk) 08:19, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  I brought the de minimis issue exactly for the same reason that @AFBorchert has stated above. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 08:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Question Based on your focus on mistakes and corrections, What would you say would be your not-so-best contributions? How have you tried to remedy them? ─ The Aafī (^talk) 04:33, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  The easy answer is - see above. I also tend to make small spelling mistakes which require moving images to a different file name later, so I am really happy to already have filemover rights and as a result can do the moving myself (example diff). Also when I started, I was not aware of how problematic it can be to take images of book covers. I learned as some of my images were deleted and as a result was a lot more careful about taking pictures of people with books and asked someone to blur the cover of a book in this image as one example. Kritzolina (talk) 08:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Question Currently you do not have any additional rights but file mover rights and you only have two edits on the admin noticeboard. Why do you think you need admin rights when you never needed patrol and revert rights or admin help in the past? --GPSLeo (talk) 10:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  Hi @GPSLeo, different people do things differently on our projects. With my current workflows I definitely don't need any extended rights, except the file mover rights in a few cases. I can imagine adding new workflows, if community thinks I should have administrator rights. Those would expand things I am doing currently - looking at noticeboards and deletion requests more regularily and making decisions there, where I feel competent to do so. At the moment I personally do not feel attracted to other workflows, which would make me use patrol or revert rights, so I am not applying for them. Kritzolina (talk) 12:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Question more on German freedom of panorama. What are your thoughts on Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2022-12#File:Berlin Hi-Flyer Sept14 views04.jpg and which of the two will you follow: the latest ruling by lower regional court at Frankfurt allowing drone photos or the more-conservative ruling of Bundesgerichtshof (federal court) that still does not allow aerial photography? JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:39, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

  Hi @JWilz12345, this is definitely a case I would not weigh in at the moment, but just read and learn from what others said. That said, I will have to read carefully and in more detail, before I can answer here in what direction I might be leaning. So you will have to be a little patient here, it might take a bit before I come back to you. Kritzolina (talk) 08:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

  Okay, this was not as lengthy as it looked at first glance - so here are my thoughts:

  1. As for the de minims question: I absolutely do not understand how people can think this applies. Trusting that we are indeed talking about the image that is still hosted on Wikivoyage, the building in question is clearly at the center of the image and larger then the surrounding cityscape. So it is the main subject of the image.
  2. Regarding the question of FoP and whether we should go with the ruling of the Bundesgerichtshof or the ruling of Landgericht Frankfurt, we absolutely should abide by existing law. And a ruling by the BGH constitutes existing law until a new decision from that court has been made. While the legal landscape is indeed changing in regards to FoP, this change is still very much unstable and uncertain and the risk of a negative court decision by a different Landgericht or an appeals court is very high. There is even the risk of a negative BGH decision for an image like this, as the copyright holder might go all the way. Personally I fully understand people who support taking such a risk and who try to push the change of law with uploading and then defending such an image. But in my eyes administrators have a responsibility to uphold existing laws, not only for the sake of the law itself, but also to protect uploaders who might face substantial financial demands and have to go through stressful court proceedings, if we kept an image like this.

  Kritzolina (talk) 10:29, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Question Do you see any copyright problems with File:215 Basílica de Montserrat, antiga sala dels exvots, capitell de Carles Collet.JPG? --Rosenzweig τ 20:58, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you for pointing me to this file, @Rosenzweig. At first look this seems to be an old capital, so it would not be a problem. But looking at the file name we see a name of a sculptor, Carles Collet. Assuming it is indeed this person, hi died in 1983 and his work is still copyrighted and needs to be deleted. It could be undeleted then in 2054. I will start the deletion request for this an similar images. Kritzolina (talk) 07:36, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Two things: One should always check for freedom of panorama in such cases. Spain does have freedom of panorama (COM:FOP Spain), but (like many countries) not inside buildings, so it does not apply to this work of art inside a church. Second, Spain has 80 years pma for authors who died before 7 December 1987, so this is still protected until the end of 2063. --Rosenzweig τ 08:27, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I missed that last one, thanks for making me aware! Kritzolina (talk) 08:30, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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Scheduled to end: 18:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Dear fellow Wikimedia Commons community members, my name is Bedivere and I am excited to announce my request for adminship on this platform. I have been an active member of the Wikimedia Commons community for several years now, and during this time, I have gained valuable experience in copyright issues, file tagging, and general maintenance tasks. As someone who has a good understanding of copyright laws, I have been able to help the community identify and remove copyright violations, which are a major challenge for Commons. I have also been involved in file tagging and maintenance tasks, and as a result, I am familiar with the policies and guidelines that govern this platform. If granted adminship, I plan to use my skills and experience to continue serving the community by helping to tackle the backlog of deletion requests, identifying and dealing with copyright violations, and assisting other users with any issues they may encounter on the platform. I am a native Spanish speaker so I can particularly help out people who may have difficulty communicating in English. I am committed to the principles of transparency and community involvement, and I promise to be accessible, responsive, and open to feedback from the community. I believe that working together, we can continue to make Wikimedia Commons a valuable resource for everyone. Thank you for your consideration, and I look forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Bedivere (talk) 18:41, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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•  Oppose Pardon me, but ~3,400 Commons edits overall isn't really a lot, and this "You don't need to know anything else! lol" on userpage somewhat suggests lack of seriousness. --A.Savin 20:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  @A.Savin We really need the context for that quote. But that quote is not in their Commons user page history. Where did you get it from?

  I assume you got it from their global user page. But that page only contains a few short statements about themselves. I think it is OK if they include a bit of humor there. Brianjd (talk) 11:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  That's correct, @Brianjd. I used to have another global userpage but because I was being intensely harassed by an English Wikipedia user (who is now indefinitely blocked there) I decided to create that rather simple user page. I even had my user page on the Spanish Wikipedia, my home wiki, deleted because of that. I am more confident now and it is the correct time to have an userpage here and I thank everyone for their constructive comments. Bedivere (talk) 17:01, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Oppose Thank you for offering your support for Commons. But I think that this is still premature (see below). Diligence in copyright-related matters is important for Commons admins and I do not see this yet. But I am confident that you can get the necessary experience and then I am looking forward to support your next candidacy. --AFBorchert (talk) 23:49, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose: Candidate has used the terms "I am excited" and "given a chance", and I applaud the enthusiasum; unfortunately those are not the terms I would expect an admin candidate with the right admin candidate to use. They are more likely the terms used by someone going on a massive deletion campaign. Now while those concerns may not apply to this candidate coming to adminship with a lowish contribution count means I feel I can only oppose on a NOTQUITEYET basis - but I do hope the candidate will continue to make useful contributions. sorry. -- DeirgeDel ^t_a^c 01:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  @DeirgeDel Hello! I understand your rationale and I thank you for your comment. I have to admit, however, I can't understand why the use of these words is inappropriate. I am indeed excited (as in enthusiastic) to be a candidate for adminship, even though it may be obvious I will not be elected this time. I am really happy to have received constructive comments. Have a good day! Bedivere (talk) 16:59, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Oppose - 3,704 edits in 3 years is hardly active even more so when in 2 years you've only made 760 edits!. Your 2,944 edits in 2022 were adding 1 category to like 500 images (x3) which is less than impressive. Given your lack of activity here I see no reason to support or grant you the bit. –Davey2010^Talk 15:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Missing experience --Ameisenigel (talk) 18:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Thanks for offering help but the relevant experience is lacking as I can notice from your answers to AFBorchert's comments. Better luck next time! ─ The Aafī (^talk) 04:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Next year you will pass. Taivo (talk) 07:35, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Lack of experience. Yahya (talk) 17:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Comments

•  Comment I think that a Commons user page would be appropriate under the circumstances along with babel info? Thanks Herby ^{talk thyme} 19:34, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  Of course! I have created a local userpage. Thanks for your input Herbythyme. --Bedivere (talk) 22:18, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Question hypothetically someone uploads this photograph from Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ralf-steinberger/32703900661 what actions would you take? Abzeronow (talk) 20:40, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  At first glance, the Flickr licensing for that image looks just fine (CC-BY). In a closer review I would 1) See if the image is actually a photograph by Ralf Steinberger. It is, so this is fine for now. 2) The image was taken in Qatar. Freedom of panorama in Qatar is very restrictive. According to COM:FOP Qatar, there is no freedom of panorama in Qatar for commercial purposes, which is a requirement for free images on Commons. As a result, the photograph should be deleted as local Qatari law is incompatible with the CC-BY license. Bedivere (talk) 22:23, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  Correct answer. Thanks for answering promptly. Abzeronow (talk) 16:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

• @A.Savin: I am sorry about that. It did not mean to be unserious. I have created a local page which reflects myself better. Regarding the low edit count, I can understand your point and accept your reasoning. I knew it could be a fair argument and it could be used on this request for adminship. Still, I think I could be given a chance and that's why I made the proposal. --Bedivere (talk) 22:18, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks for adding more content. --A.Savin 00:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Bedivere Don’t be sorry. Admins are allowed to include humor in their user pages, just like any other user. Having said that, it is good that you created a local user page with more information. Brianjd (talk) 11:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Brianjd Thanks for your input Brianjd. I pretty much responded this and your previous comment above in the voting section, but I reiterate I am thankful for your constructive comments. Have a good day Bedivere (talk) 17:02, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Question Please explain how you are coming to the conclusion that {{PD-Argentina}} applies for File:Lucho Navarro, Horacio Malvicino, Jorge Kenny – El Cangurito Feliz 03.jpg and File:Lucho Navarro, Horacio Malvicino, Jorge Kenny – El Cangurito Feliz 02.jpg. --AFBorchert (talk) 22:59, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  I see your point. The PD-Argentina template only refers to photographs, not for drawings or other pieces of art. These uploads are more than just a photograph, but they are compositions of photographs along with drawings. As a result, these uploads (which are mine and here I am making a mea culpa) should be deleted or at least cropped as to only include the photographs of Lucho Navarro. I will go read more about copyright law in Argentina before requesting myself these deletions. I have reviewed the copyright law of Argentina and although the PD-Argentina licensing tag is incorrect in this case, these should be replaced with {{PD-AR-Anonymous}}. My explanation is that article 8 of Law 11.723 says intellectual property of anonymous works belonging to institutions, corporations, etc., expires fifty years after publication. Discos Calesita operated until 1968 (that is the year of the last release available in Discogs and a search on GOogle Books makes no counterclaim to this information). As a result, these works are in the public domain in Argentina. Bedivere (talk) 23:03, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  How do you come to the conclusion that this has been published anonymously? What is the difference between anonymous and unknown? --AFBorchert (talk) 23:19, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  None of the vinyl sleeves has the name of the author of the artwork, nor the photographer. The Law No. 11.723 of Argentina makes no distinction between works of unknown author and those of anonymous authors. In fact, article No. 3 expresses the "editor of an anonymous or pseudonymous work will be corresponded with the rights and obligations of the author, who may claim these for themselves justifying its personality". I think in this case applies ubi lex non distinguit, nec nos distinguere debemus, that is, when law does not distinguish (between anonymous and unknown-author works) it should not be up to us to distinguish. Now if you ask me, there is a difference between anonymous works, when the author has temporarily or permanently abandoned their right to authorship; and those works who are of unknown authors, when the author has not claimed authorship or it has not been possible to identify the author when they could have claimed authorship. In this particular case, it seems obvious to me the author(s) of the drawings and artworks used in the LP sleeve were works for hire and they rightfully belong to the label, Discos Calesita. Bedivere (talk) 23:28, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  I have made a closer inspection to the sleeves and it seems the creator of the artworks (but probably not of the photograph) is an artist named Tessarolo. They created more artwork for Calesita. No more information is available about the artist. As a result of this continued investigation, I have requested deletion of the uncropped LP sleeves, made a closer cropping of the portrait photograph avoiding the inclusion of Tassarolo's artworks, and cropped the headshot in the back cover. These should be fine to keep. --Bedivere (talk) 23:35, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  (Edit conflict) Indeed, the signature “Tessarolo” can be clearly seen, hence the author of the drawings is neither unknown nor anonymous. This is probably Germán Tessarolo (still living) or his uncle of the same name. He was unknown to you as you didn't research this initially in the first place but the publication was obviously not anonymous. Thank you for adding the speedy deletion tag, I've deleted it and in the other case the older revision. --AFBorchert (talk) 23:46, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

  No worries. The signature is indeed very obvious. I can't believe I didn't see it at first glance, and instead confused it with a writing of the LP owner. I found out I was wrong when I started looking at other Calesita records. My bad. Thanks for deleting the files I tagged. I think it is Germán Tessarolo's uncle of the same name. Here is a compilation of Calesita releases and one of them mentions the illustrator as G. Tessarolo. [1] Have a good day and thanks for your very interesting question! Bedivere (talk) 23:48, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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