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Lizenzstatus für Kieferer Krippen / permission state for nativity scenes from Kiefersfelden[edit]
Fünf Bilder aus der Kategorie Kieferer Krippen stehen seit etwa 2023-02-10 im Status {{Permission received}}:
- File:Kiefersfelden, Dorfkrippe, Engel, 1.jpeg
- File:Kiefersfelden, Dorfkrippe, Stern, 1.jpeg
- File:Kiefersfelden, Dorfkrippe, 3.jpeg
- File:Kiefersfelden, Dorfkrippe, 4.jpeg
- File:Kiefersfelden, Rahmenkrippe Sebastianskapelle, 1.jpeg
Der Bearbeiter hat den Förderverein Kieferer Krippen mit folgender Aufforderung kontaktiert (Ticket 2023020910007304):
- „bitte geben Sie an wer die Fotografen sind, die diese Fotos aufgenommen haben, und aufgrund welcher Umstände Ihr Verein Rechteinhaber an den Foto wurde…“
Wer die Fotos gemacht hat, geht aus der Vorlage {{Artwork}} hervor. Was die Rechte an den Krippen anbelangt, hat der Förderverein nicht behauptet, selbst Rechteinhaber zu sein, sondern bei den Rechteinhabern nachgefragt zu haben („…unter der Lizenz cc-by-sa-4.0 freigegeben sind. Die Rechteinhaber an den Krippen haben dem zugestimmt.”)
Die Künstler Albrecht und Constantin Hahn sowie Siegfried Leitner, die die Krippen (abgesehen von Grundmaterial, das keine Schöpfungshöhe erreicht) angefertigt haben, waren bis zu Ihrem Tod (2022 bzw. 2019) Mitglieder des Vereins. Ich sehe daher keinen Grund zu bezweifeln, dass der Vereinsvorstand bei den Erben nachgefragt und eine positive Antwort bekommen hat. Dass der Verein das gewissenhaft handhabt, sieht man zum Beispiel daran, dass für eines der Fotos (einer anderen Krippe) eine Erlaubnis nicht zu bekommen war; dieses Foto wurde dann auch nicht hochgeladen.
Wenn die Aussage des Vereinsvorstandes, dass die Rechteinhaber einer freien Lizenz zugestimmt haben, bezweifelt wird, ist natürlich nichts zu machen, denn die Rechteinhaber werden keine notariell beglaubigte Erklärung schicken. In diesem Fall müssen die fünf Bilder zunächst gelöscht werden, mit dem Vermerk, dass sie nach 70 Jahren (2092 bzw. 2089) wieder freizugeben sind. –– Renardo la vulpo (talk) 14:41, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Die Freigabe aller fünf Bilder wurde heute bestätigt, danke.
This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. ─ Renardo la vulpo (talk) 15:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi to all,
I have uploaded this video but it do not work and it's size is 1.5 GB. Yesterday, I have rebuild another identical version starting from the original MP4, but in WebM, and it's size is only 320 MB.
Is it possible upload a new file, with the name File:Wiki Loves Marche 2022 award ceremony.webm and reuse the same VRTS ticket (2023011810005096) without send another ticket 'cause the file is the same and the only modification is the codec?
I ask it 'cause is difficult contact Francesca Volpini which have give me the singles video that I have mixed.
Thank you in advance, Giacomo Alessandroni What's up! 11:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Galessandroni: If the source remains same for the modified file, it is alright to use the same VRTS ticket number. No need to send another permission. Please let me know if you have any doubt. Best, ─ The Aafī (talk) 11:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- This is so because File:Wiki Loves Marche 2022 award ceremony.ogg is already released under CC BY SA 4.0. You just need to follow guidelines of this, and you are allowed to "to copy, distribute and transmit the work, to adapt the work" keeping in view that you "give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use" and "If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you must distribute your contributions under the same or compatible license as the original.". I hope this helps. ─ The Aafī (talk) 11:40, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @TheAafi Thank you. It's true. I know but my request it's a bit different.
- Now that I have re-codec the file, and the first one is only a weight for our servers is it possible delete the first file? It is impossible to use it and it is the same to this one. If the answer is no, can I insert (in the ogg file) a simple link to the webm file?
- Thanks, Giacomo Alessandroni What's up! 12:26, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Galessandroni: I just removed the VRT tag because it appeared unnecessary and instead inserted a manual text indicating that from where this file has come from. I don't think the file in ogg format is worthy to be deleted. However if you want to get it deleted given its redundant nature and that it won't be ever used, I'll drop a comment on the ticket that the file has been replaced by a webm version and will insert the ticket over there. The COM:DUPE mentions, Files that are not of the same file type are not duplicates, but instead possibly redundant. You will need to explain why the webm version is much better than the ogg format and list the file for deletion via COM:DR. There's nothing much where VRT can offer you advises, but I hope this much is helpful. ─ The Aafī (talk) 13:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @The Aafi you have completely answered all my questions and you have helped me to understand several details. Thank you very much for your courtesy. Eventually yes: the file in ogg format is unusable. This is the main reason 'cause I ask for its deletion, to avoid an user finding that file and cannot see the content. But this is another story, outside VRT section. Giacomo Alessandroni What's up! 13:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Salve, Giacomo, forse sarebbe utile inserire un {{Superseded}} (or/and {{Other versions}}) nella pagina di descrizione della versione ogg. Saluti, –– Renardo la vulpo (talk) 16:33, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- @The Aafi you have completely answered all my questions and you have helped me to understand several details. Thank you very much for your courtesy. Eventually yes: the file in ogg format is unusable. This is the main reason 'cause I ask for its deletion, to avoid an user finding that file and cannot see the content. But this is another story, outside VRT section. Giacomo Alessandroni What's up! 13:58, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Galessandroni: I just removed the VRT tag because it appeared unnecessary and instead inserted a manual text indicating that from where this file has come from. I don't think the file in ogg format is worthy to be deleted. However if you want to get it deleted given its redundant nature and that it won't be ever used, I'll drop a comment on the ticket that the file has been replaced by a webm version and will insert the ticket over there. The COM:DUPE mentions, Files that are not of the same file type are not duplicates, but instead possibly redundant. You will need to explain why the webm version is much better than the ogg format and list the file for deletion via COM:DR. There's nothing much where VRT can offer you advises, but I hope this much is helpful. ─ The Aafī (talk) 13:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Uploads by AlonsoTav[edit]
Hi there, I'm not a member of the VRT team and cannot view tickets, but I've noticed something odd. I've noticed that user AlonsoTav has a number of files they've managed to secure tickets for:
- File:FTW Champion Hook with Taz, 2022.jpg
- File:Keith Lee & Swerve AEW Tag Team Champs.jpg
- File:AEW World Trios Champions Death Triangle, 2022.jpg
However, as evidenced by their talk page, User talk:AlonsoTav, this user does not seem particularly sophisticated in their understanding of the Commons. They've had several files removed for Copyright violations and they upload from websites simply at random, rather than from websites that might use creative commons licenses.
It is possible that they've managed to secure permission for these images from "All Elite Wrestling", the company which employs all the people featured in these images. I myself have managed to do this for other images by contacting their social media/digital team. So it is possible, although I'm not sure It's probable in the case of AlonsoTav, who in addition to their copyright violations seems to primarily be a Spanish speaker rather than an English speaker.
Would someone be able to give me an idea of what exactly they stated/told you in these tickets? CeltBrowne (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- @CeltBrowne, The ticket came from one person telling they represent All Elite Wrestling (copyright holder) and also the photographer from there. The email address also appears legitimate. That's everything I can tell. ─ The Aafī (talk) 14:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough. That does seem legitimate, as I said myself have been able to contact All Elite Wrestling and secure permission for other files. Thank you for taking the time. CeltBrowne (talk) 14:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)